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Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

by okage in

i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

but that's not our goal.

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Chaserious-

Canada, USA, Oz and Europe are the WTs bread basket - also the most likely populations to care about social change- because they are used to people fighting for (and being granted) rights and freedoms.

JWs are a rare target - they are one of the English worlds smallest, yet most recognisable and most disliked religions.

If the public who already dislikes being annoyed by them, were to even remotely grasp the 'secret' social damage, depression,and suicide that results from cults that shun, I'm certain there would grow a natural curiousity about any movement or campaign to demand changes.

You have acknowledged that we easily field thousands, and if class action were ever a posibility- millions could be involved (everyone who is shunned and damaged by their policies- and who isn't?

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Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

by okage in

i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

but that's not our goal.

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Also (can you tell I'm excited?)

'1914 -2014' could be celebrated in a most fitting way - by bringing an end to 100 years of psycological and emotional abuse by the JW cult.

Loz pointed out the futility of trying to bring down the society- granted.

But, do we not have a moral responsibility to our families and those regrouping with us at this board for comfort, to try a strategic, well planned and deliberate effort to effect change? if it is within our power?

There's 11 months 'til 2014. Whether the WT plans to 'spin' that date or hope it fades into dusty hisory - WE can make it a year JWs will never forget - the year the society was made to face up to (maybe change , maybe abandon) their most vile practice!

Plus the great satisfaction of launching a pre-emptive strike that can never be mistaken for the late, unfocused, dismal glow of 'Noo Lite' !

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Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

by okage in

i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

but that's not our goal.

gone for good

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It seems to me the ultimate goal would be, to have the society put in a very public and embarrassing situation with regard to their own shunning policies.

Would it be possible to orchestrate an amnesty -under which people could leave the WT without repurcussions during a given week, or month ?

Think of the negative publicity if the society refused! and then the negative publicityagain if, even after the letter writing, a class action suit and an amnesty situation, they still plowed ahead and began the Nazi process of disfellowshipping all those, who had just sought religious freedom from them - by private letter writing, by seeking court assistanced annullments and finally physically walking out the door.

Like the civil rights struggle in the 50-60s - somewhere along the line - others have to take notice that freedoms are at stake and people are being persecutedif not hated by a religious group - how embarrassing to be that group

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Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

by okage in

i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

but that's not our goal.

gone for good

I think that the proper letter writing strategy is an excellent - done exactly as their own campaign was with Malawi Let the vile dictator know what you think and how he looks to the rest of the world - and sink them in paperwork just for fun - also don't forget to ask a theocratic question ot two - just to see if you get a reply. hehe

And yes, I wrote to the stupid and arrogant Hastings Banda just like the rest of you did). I'll write a helluvalot more than once this time.

Letters especially when shared with your local newspaper have great impact - I always read the letters from our local papers because they are, after all our own nieghbours expressing themselves . Take advantage of free expression-which the wt hates . and highlite the issue of freedom of religion - another issue the wt hates.

I feel the letters should be formatted here by those with the skills and then personalized by all of us for our own purposes.

What about thousands and thousands of people filing, all within a given time, seeking the courts assistance to have our baptisms annulled?

Would this force a class action suits and get that is as aprecedent for freenom of religion? Band on the run- any thoughts ? Class action would also liberate all those persecuted for life as apostates. (The society keeps your DF card and marks on it when you die!)

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Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

by okage in

i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

but that's not our goal.

gone for good

okage - thank you, thank you for casting your bread on our waters.

My one frustration, in the year or so I've been here,is that we are all, (at least I am) full of talk and no actions.

I am certainly willing to act on a well orchestrated, multi-pronged assault that brings well deserved disgrace on that filthy organisation, that thinks I don't desrve to see my grandkids.

A little girl named Rosa Parks changed American history, by carefully planning a small, justifiable act that ignited the unity and recaptured the rights and dignity of a whole society.

If thousands of us with the talent, knowledge and passion displayed in this (and other forums) around the world can't rock the Watchtowers delusional little world - then we are the ones who deserve the disgrace.

More later - GfG

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Why WTBTS Disfellowshipping Works...

by AGuest in

jw
friends

to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

i just wanted to share with you, briefly, what i have come to understand as to why disfellowshipping by the wtbts works... why it can continue being fomented as it is.

i realize there are pages and pages of studies regarding cults and cult mindsets, etc., but i am not going to inundate you with such but rather try to keep this simple.

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LisaRose and Tec -

If friends like you had served as 'ministers' at my congregation, I would have attended (gladly) my judicial hearings.

My family may have been spared a lifetime of anger and frustration.

GfG

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Who would you most like to meet from this board and why?

by usualusername in

jw
friends

who would you most like to meet from this board and why?.

i would love to by danmera dinner.

she rocks!.

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wasblind - her wit and wisdom makes me laugh out LOUD -unless 'Bessie' was there, then I wouldn't laugh...much

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Boundary Changes for Congregations and Secrecy

by Vienna Angelika in

jw
friends

right now the congregations in winnipeg are undergoing major boundary changes which will be put in action at the beginning of february.

our congregation is supposed to find out today but i decided to ask some people i knew who went the previous meeting if we were going to be put together with the people at our old congregation who are shunning me.

even though they knew, they refused to tell me because "the society" told them not to tell us.

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Hello Vienna Angelika -

Swapping out halls and territories presents a golden opportunity, to dodge the hate and disappear.

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I've made an appointment to see the head teacher about God and creation

by not bitter in

jw
friends

a bit of background.

my 6 year old talks about god an awful lot.

well more than i'm comfortable with.

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Hello not bitter -

No need to worry or intervene at all.

Your little one is having a wonderful time with her imagination- the greatest teaching aid EVER.

Soon she'll race back to you with the news that '..some people don't believe in god!!' - more things that need to be imagined upon.

Keep her path to your ears always open -she's already lucky to have a mom who cares so much.

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Does fear of death equate to need for God?

by Monsieur in

read a very interesting opinion article on cnn last night.

"why i raise my kids without god".. .

the writer aluded to the fear of the possibility of one's life ending forever (along with our beloved children's).

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Being raised on a farm has been a real asset.

As a little kid,helping with the livestock, you witness diverse and amazing cycles of life and death.

I doubt if many farm kids have to enquire as to were babies come from!

And so many ways to die - and certainly no guarantes that we'll all live long, or die old and tired like grandma or the family dogs.

Absolutely no necessity nor insinuation of an afterlife in the natural world, but what a joy to live our part - passing the love and preparations of our ancestors on to bless our children and theirs...

Works perfectly.